slpoer: Hi guys slpoer: What time is it in Buenos Aires ffmycat: lol -- late s_cases: here it`s 21:19 s_cases: pm s_cases: :-) ffmycat: we had just talked about that slpoer: I wouldn't be able to keep my eyes open s_cases: I looking for airticket for a friend that want to travel to s_cases: while I´m waiting here slpoer: Airlines canceling flights now by 100's ffmycat: Carol is having a hard time getting on slpoer: Was she able to download messanger s_cases: He will need to travel at the end of May. s_cases: It´s a small city Herndon in Virginia...I thinking, am I right? ffmycat: checking with Carol slpoer: Maybe it will be better then. My friend is stranded in Dallas for two days ffmycat: Silvina: correct, it is close to DC itself slpoer: Attached to big city I think s_cases: What is DC? I think that I loosing something ffmycat: sorry -- washington dc slpoer: Distric of Columbia s_cases: Thanks! s_cases: I also helping a new exibitor from Spain that want to go to a show in USA :) s_cases: a NF breeder slpoer: Where does the exhibitor want to go? slpoer: Greetings Cindy s_cases: Hi Cindy! mystymaine: Hi Silvina slpoer: That's in Florida isn't it s_cases: but he don`t speak well English. s_cases: I remember that is in Missisipi...but he sent me two show more amnd now I have a mess s_cases: :D slpoer: Ana Maria Sosa speaks spanish, she is judge, I saw her last weekend, helped people from Mexico show cats s_cases: it`s excellent!!!! slpoer: he needs to go where she is judging, but My guess is there are several that speak the language in sc and sw regions s_cases: Sharon, I want to know if Richard sent to you the logo that I made for the club slpoer: Yes he did, very nice, s_cases: really? Do you like it? slpoer: Yes, maybe add a few more cats of different breed, but over all I liked it, had the same basic idea in my head too. s_cases: Oh! I will try to find anothers mystymaine: Guys I have a lot to do I am so sorry this is bad nite for me to be in Conference s_cases: cats for include it ffmycat: who is taking notes? ffmycat: so we can post to the website slpoer: We will print them like we di last time. Straight from conference s_cases: Maybe richard can send me again the log and I can make again a brief ffmycat: Cindy T is having trouble with IM as well as Carol s_cases: or I can copy all when we finish! ffmycat: Cindy T is reinstalling messenger ffmycat: if necessary will paste her IM in here ffmycat: agenda?? slpoer: Yes, under print tab, save all, and then you have the saved document. ffmycat: wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Will I need another invite? SilverGirl: should still be there, but will send another. SilverGirl: let me know when you have it installed wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: sure will SilverGirl: if that does not work will play messenger... wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: hopefully it will slpoer: Agenda, Richard was going to discuss some of things he found out from inguires ro show hall and hotel, Discuss for sure the desired date for show s_cases: Oh! He has news s_cases: wonderful slpoer: Be sure to renew membership with TICA slpoer: We will request the Charter about June 1 to get us in the year window for the show ffmycat: just received my number, and hubby filed it (translation -- we can't find it) so don't know when it expires, but will check again -- EO is going to loooove me -- sigh slpoer: I was in Texas for show and went to Rosemary Krieter's to pick up supplies she donated from her old club now dissolved, We have clerk boxes, cash boes, rolls of raffel or gate tickets, boxes and boxes of recycled rosettes, rolls of paper, rolls of plastic, old TICA annuals to sell or raffle slpoer: also a box of paper flats, s_cases: We have a lot of thins!!!!! ffmycat: that is great ffmycat: Richard should be added shortly slpoer: Yes, a lot to get started with, enough for six ring show slpoer: Hi Richard, rich5705: Hi s_cases: Hi, Richard! rich5705: Thought I was left out ffmycat: SilverGirl: Cindy SilverGirl: my apologies wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I' here SilverGirl: you are showing up on my messenger, but not when I try to add you to the conference SilverGirl: I'll relay for you ffmycat: so there are 5 of us now s_cases: Do you have the new version of logo? rich5705: We need to get Cindy Millar She is out there but can't get in ffmycat: she made it, but tonight was not a good night for her slpoer: how about cindy t ffmycat: I'm relaying for her s_cases: If we want to decide something we must be more? slpoer: Richard do you want to tell the group what you have found out so far? slpoer: No 5 is a quorum and we have 4 officers s_cases: good! ffmycat: message from Cindy M: ffmycat: Cindy Millar: yes SilverGirl: can you join us? or are you too busy? Cindy Millar: well I can't have company over Cindy Millar: I'm so sorry bad nite SilverGirl: k, don't worry, we have a quorum SilverGirl: notes will be posted SilverGirl: rich5705: We found out that we can ren the Pavilion for about the same price as the cotillion The cotillion is about 20000 sq ft the pavilion is 90000 s_cases: Oh! It`s important diference in space rich5705: The Pavillion is at the Kansas Coluseium right off of 135 ffmycat: not that far from the airport either s_cases: Be near airport is good option for exhibitors ffmycat: I'll ask the 64000 question -- how much? rich5705: It's a ways from the airport but most of the hotels have shuttle service slpoer: Yes and big enough we could have an Icats ring, that would be big gate drw and no one to my knowledge has done that in Wichita before s_cases: I never seen Icats ring s_cases: I think that will be so nice to see rich5705: They had a dog show week before last and they had 4000 people show up and they were only using half the space s_cases: extra space is always good for have vendors rich5705: We'er starting to get some responce from Hotels too rich5705: The only one that offered us space was the Broadview across from centruy 2 for $5000 a day ffmycat: 5 grand or $50? ffmycat: just checking rich5705: The hotels have until the 21st to get their bids in so I'll have some more to tell at the OKC show rich5705: 5 grand a day slpoer: Little pricey, Richard and I had a big laugh ffmycat: hmmm rich5705: Their real proud of their stuff ffmycat: we are talking about a 2 day show, correct? Sat & Sun -- 12 rings If we go Ishow, then maybe a 3 day show, Fri, Sat & Sun.... ???? slpoer: Much better at Coliseum, when I was at show in slpoer: Texas, I started asking vendors if they might come, Good response rich5705: Great rich5705: We can certainly offer them a lot of room ffmycat: we could really promote this.... slpoer: Also good resposnse from a very breeders there too ffmycat: question from Cindy T: ffmycat: wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: So, our options at this point are The Coliseum or The Cotillion? What about Century 2? It as you said, is directly across the street from the Broadview. slpoer: I said I run all over Texas, you can come to KS and some of them said they would rich5705: Good s_cases: it`s good! ffmycat: did we hear from Century 2? rich5705: We had a bad experience there rich5705: Also our downtown is a wreak. Therre is a lot of construction going on ffmycat: is this the one who nickeled and dimed you to death? I remember reading up on one of the contracts on line and thought -- ye gods -- everything costs -- or was that someplace else? rich5705: Yes slpoer: We also talked to my son in law who wants to be hired for percentage of profit to act as marketing manager for the club and get sponsors on board. Marty said no reason we can't hire a MM. He wants us to draw up packages he could offer and the cost of them ffmycat: Question from Cindy T: ffmycat: wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I have a dumb question, being new to all of this, where does the money come from to rent these facilities? rich5705: entry fees mostly slpoer: Full day sponsership and what would they get for that and the price, 2 day sponsorship etc s_cases: I made a flyer for announcing our club.....and I also include a little form only in case someone can join to the club.....Richard had the file. When have a date for show I can do something similar for promote the show and you can print bring with you the next time that you go to a show s_cases: We can ask for rossete`s sponsor too rich5705: Thanks s_cases: + vendors space if we have some free slpoer: We will have lots of room for vendors rich5705: We can have pleanty for non profit too slpoer: Also Broadview wanted big pet deposit and about 99 dollar day for room ffmycat: I'm thinking that the better promoted, marketed, sponsored, etc. etc, the better off we are going to do... especially if we can show a package deal... rich5705: The more vendors we have the more people will want to come out and see slpoer: I think we can find nice hotel for less with no pet deposit. s_cases: Ah! Another offert. Here we always make a magazinne that we print for give to the peolpe who came to visit the show. The breeder pay for include an advertising of their cattery and kittens, also the vendors have a space there slpoer: Something besides the show catalogue? s_cases: The last time with this money we paid catalog print in color ffmycat: Gate (general public) can be huge -- especially if it is unique s_cases: and we save a little more for another things rich5705: I had responces fom sleep Inn and comfort Inn 89 and 79 respectivle The Sleep Inn is only 2 miles from the Coliseuim ffmycat: hmmm .... slpoer: And brand new. rich5705: I need to talk to them about a pet deposit. They didn't say any thing slpoer: Built for Wild West thenme park that went belly up rich5705: Yes rich5705: There is another slpoer: I bet we can talk them into nothing just like the LaQuinta rich5705: The Club House Inn right off of the Kansas turnpike and Kellogg $67 a night rich5705: Also The Coliseuim as RV parking slpoer: Comfort Inn is also located close and ran by same manager as sleep inn s_cases: it`s good price slpoer: Yes, Some have continental breakfast also rich5705: Its' like half way from the airpor to the Coliseium s_cases: in the middle? rich5705: yes slpoer: But I would guess all with in 15 20 minutes rich5705: Yes s_cases: it`s good! ffmycat: we might be able to offer some type of shuttle service from airport to hotel if there is not one already available for a price... rich5705: I think there is one already s_cases: In my experience it wonderful have hotel and show hall all together but not always it`s possible ffmycat: Relay from Cindy T: ffmycat: wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: My two cents.... I prefer the Coliseum to the Cotillion. It just seems like a better facility. slpoer: I was thinking the same thing today, if we could get car dealership to sonsor with some vans ffmycat: sorry, I'm still thinking of ways to make $$$ ffmycat: if we have that much space we could also promote cat adoption and get public service radio, etc. AND contact the local animal shelter(s) boards / supporters for sponsorships, donations, etc. etc rich5705: I think so. It's just a sealed concrete floor nothing fancy but it gives us room to grow slpoer: I agree Ciindy, more space, RV parking for those that come in RV ffmycat: so do we know how much? rich5705: It's $1100 a day with half that for Friday setup rich5705: About 2750 slpoer: And get some of the pets for adoption entered in the show with some of the handlers, A Rosette on the show crate never hurt a thing rich5705: But we we will have about a $250 electric bill to light the place s_cases: this is something for have in mind slpoer: Still that seems a good price for 2.5 days and electric ffmycat: that is not bad at all slpoer: about he same for the smaller cotillion wasn't it Richard rich5705: I don't think we will find anything better ffmycat: do we want to go three days? rich5705: yes ffmycat: so that would be a Thursday night set up.. ffmycat: if we go 3 day for show rich5705: The Cotillion was $4000 all includive s_cases: the 3 1/2 days? rich5705: 2-1/2 days s_cases: okay ffmycat: question from Cindy T: ffmycat: I have a dumb question, being new to all of this, where does the money come from to rent these facilities? Still wondering slpoer: They have big curtains they can set up for vendor, judges rooms, rich5705: entry fees, vendor spaces and sponsors slpoer: That is part of the pre-show sales work for sponsorships, early bird entry fees, ffmycat: unless anyone else has any other objections, it sounds as if we've basically decided where.... ffmycat: do we have any other bids outstanding?? slpoer: I think it is a very solid option and that would give us the goal to shoot for. s_cases: Richard I will sned to you tomorrow and old magazine for you see how we wroked with advertising rich5705: I don't think we can dicide anything Do we have a quarm? ffmycat: we have 5 of us slpoer: We do have a quorum rich5705: I think we should hold off until we hear from the other hotels s_cases: As you are the other expert in software :) ffmycat: do we have the date set yet? rich5705: Make a final decision in OKC rich5705: No slpoer: The poll was for May 23-24, the govt holiday rich5705: We're looking at meorial day week end or the weekend after ffmycat: hmmm s_cases: only a few voted slpoer: 10 but that about who has paid their dues ffmycat: most people who are taking off that weekend start early anyway, and that would give Monday to travel home -- that might make a difference in the motels' response rich5705: Yes I would like to get more input from the membership. Perhaps OKC slpoer: I agree ffmycat: wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Do we have a time to meet in OKC? s_cases: me too! ffmycat: those that don't attend, suggest email ballot... rich5705: We're doing this early enough where the motels do't care slpoer: We can plan a meeting for Sat morning before show or Sunday morning before show s_cases: it will be so good rich5705: How about Sunday ffmycat: Sunday sounds better... for some reason ffmycat: last minute crud that always happens on a Sat morning... slpoer: Saturday is a hassle to get cages set up ffmycat: that is what I'm thinking, and stuff, and then the stuff that someone didn't do, slpoer: There are other things we can consider to save money on show too ffmycat: and then the stuff that no one thought about... lol slpoer: We have a bunch of recycled Rosettes that we can use plaques on ffmycat: Hang one: ffmycat: Meeting is on Sunday? What time -- Cindy is asking slpoer: multiple colors so the exhibitor could choose one to their liking and color theme. ffmycat: 7? 7:30, 8? 8:30????? rich5705: 8:00? I think they start the judging at 9:00 slpoer: I would say 7:30 ffmycat: 7:30 with an agenda, and have our ducks in a row.... ffmycat: sorry -- most of my life seems to be tied up in meetings... rich5705: We'll need to figure out how to get in the building s_cases: I think that 9 it`s good time for start slpoer: I would say 7:30 to give us at least an hour ffmycat: or we could meet at breaksfast slpoer: Food is always a good ice breaker rich5705: It would be nice if we could do it at a time when vistiors could sit in (prospective members) ffmycat: just thinking -- that way we don't have to be there early, and no one will expect us to open up for them if they see us, etc... Either that or later Sat night -- Clerking is Sat night, correct?? slpoer: I would say lunch time but that is when most regional meetings are called isn;t it slpoer: Saturday night is my social hour with my Texas friends slpoer: heheheh rich5705: How about Saturday at Lunch? slpoer: Good slpoer: Marty said we could call it for what ever time we wanted slpoer: Is everyone in agreement with Saturday lunch rich5705: I will pass out the flier about the club Saturday morning and it will give them time to think about it rich5705: Sounds good s_cases: count with my help, Richard :) rich5705: Thanks ffmycat: what time is lunch? noon? s_cases: you wellcome! slpoer: Good, then Saturday lunch is it then, we will invite prospective members, and Richard and I will try to have some of these options written rich5705: It will depend a little on when the judges get done slpoer: Lunch is when we have the most rings shut down for the jusges break. Hopefully about the same time s_cases: it`s good time! slpoer: Any other topics to discuss? rich5705: Before we Leave I would like to announce the new KansasKatz Web site 2.0 :-O I'll put it up Friday evening s_cases: You are doing a great work rich5705: Thanks rich5705: anything else? slpoer: I have a vendor who is willing to get a shirt price for us to sell club shirts, We can put on what ever we wish, She has one design that is a circle of cats of differnet breeds. I really like that. We could sell them as club shirts to make small profit rich5705: Sounds good slpoer: I will get the specifics and let you see that at the show ffmycat: Cindy T has signed off slpoer: Also what about th good search thing ffmycat: question: slpoer: Richard s_cases: Here we have also vendors who do the same but with cup pf coffee and onather things s_cases: always it`s wonderful s_cases: also the public like it ffmycat: when is/was the last day entry for OKC? ffmycat: have someone asking and I forgot.. rich5705: Oh Yeah. I'll spell out the details on the board but since we are nonprofit we were approved for good search. Bascily it's a search engine by Yahoo and every time you search with the club gets a penny per search rich5705: Just go to goodsearch.com and start type kansasKatz it should find it s_cases: Someone have any idea when we will have the next meeting? slpoer: Second wednesday of every month rich5705: I think OKC will be the next one will you be there? slpoer: Jon I can't find my flyer right now. I'm already entered on eb rate ffmycat: k slpoer: So meeting is adjourned rich5705: Second s_cases: fine! Here it`s 23 pm ffmycat: thanks!! slpoer: See you in OKC s_cases: second too! ffmycat: bye slpoer: Good night rich5705: Bye s_cases: bye!