mystymaine: well Marty ffmycat: address? mystymaine: cattrekker@yahoo.com ffmycat: does not appear to be online ffmycat: request pending slpoer: crsphynx was trying to access chat room ffmycat: Sharon -- turning this over to you mystymaine: try cattrekker@sbcglobal.net ffmycat: crsphynx @ what? slpoer: Sharon is going to her other computer to get addresses ffmycat: k, thanks! :) mystymaine: I just pm'd her as well slpoer: Sorry For the mix up. This is a leaning experence slpoer: crsphynx@att.net ffmycat: sent her a request, and Silvina Cases mystymaine: OK good slpoer: Good mystymaine: this is a great way to communicate, in my opinion ffmycat: and wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net mystymaine: Cindy just came on here now mystymaine: I mean on Yahoo IM mystymaine: Well Hi everyone wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Finally!:) s_cases: Thanks! mystymaine: Yes this is much better ffmycat: ok -- I'm shutting up, and turning this over to Sharon mystymaine: Me too ffmycat: if anyone else comes online, will add them mystymaine: Good :-D slpoer: Hi group, sorry aabout the delay. We need a secretary slpoer: Any volunteers mystymaine: Marty is on now slpoer: Did Marty Volunteer cattrekker: wheee....made it mystymaine: Hi Marty cattrekker: Hiya Cindy cattrekker: and everybody else wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: hi slpoer: hi Marty mystymaine: Well I'll start I am in Texas s_cases: hi Marty! cattrekker: I'm in Oklahoma slpoer: Richard and I thought we were having a private meeting for awhile wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I'm in Kansas cattrekker: heehee....gave up on the other chat room and went downatairs to eat mystymaine: I would imagine most are in Kansas slpoer: So are Richard and I in Kansas s_cases: Iīm not live in USA slpoer: We need to get the election done so we can proceed with requesting tax id and incorporation update mystymaine: Are they having a meeting on the Kansascats site or does anyone know?? cattrekker: what is the slate?? mystymaine: we can't get in ffmycat: still down mystymaine: O OK ffmycat: do we have at least the minimum number of TICA members? wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: What is the minimum? slpoer: Sharon for President, Jon for VP, Richard Hummel is treasurer, Sara Paul for one of the directors, Pat Harbert as advisor (counciloe(\ mystymaine: I think it is 5 am I right??? s_cases: Yes 5 itīs right cattrekker: I will be ad advisor if you want slpoer: Ok, we want cattrekker: I have Pat Harbert on the phone.... slpoer: all we need is a secretary, I have not gotten anyone to volunteer wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I would be interested in knowing what positions need to be filled and the responsibilities of them. s_cases: I will not have any problem but I live in SA Region mystymaine: I know Marty knows very well...Marty?? s_cases: Iīm the secretary of a club here cattrekker: then I nominate Silvia for secretary..... slpoer: Are you available for all of our on line meetings on Tuesdays s_cases: I suppose mystymaine: Any club with no less than five (5) TICA members, organized for the following purposes, may apply for a club charter mystymaine: thats from TICA website cattrekker: we need a second for the nomination slpoer: Thank you, then we can teach Cindy part of those responsibilities if she wouldlike wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I'll 2nd cattrekker: I move we accept the slate as stated...... slpoer: Cindy would you like to be director wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: What is a director, I'm am pretty new to all of this. cattrekker: you have officers and then directors who are not officers to serve on the board of directors wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: What would I need to do? slpoer: a board member who assists in making decisions, may head up a committe mystymaine: What is your position? Director? slpoer: yes, director for cindy slpoer: cindy what was your last name again wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Trenkle mystymaine: No I mean in the club slpoer: Richard is writting this all down wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I guess I could, but I would need some coaching wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Do you need my cattery name? mystymaine: is everyone talking or typing only wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: typing ffmycat: typing, sorry cattrekker: typing mystymaine: LOL no thats OK crsphynx@att.net: typing slpoer: yes typing typos cattrekker: LOL slpoer: Richard is writing the slate down slpoer: Marty has moved the slate be accepted as is, do I have a 2nd cattrekker: Pat Harbert seconds slpoer: The slate has been moved and accepted , all in favor ffmycat: works for me cattrekker: aye wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: aye mystymaine: I second that slpoer: sharon and richard aye cattrekker: Pat Harbert aye s_cases: okay crsphynx@att.net: ok slpoer: So shall I put the allot out tonight and email votes to who, Connie, can you be the teller. everyone will e-mail their ballot to you. crsphynx@att.net: sure cattrekker: we don't have to mail a ballot.... cattrekker: we have a quorum here cattrekker: so the election is valid s_cases: I think that itīs valid slpoer: okay. then we are good cattrekker: I think I'm the unofficial parliamentarian here.... cattrekker: ;) slpoer: okay slpoer: I was reading the renewal for the charter s_cases: The renewal for club in in may if I remember well mystymaine: the officers that are needed are on the TICA sote iI have the link s_cases: at the same time as membership cattrekker: yes, may 1st and it is $25.00 cattrekker: the charter renewal form is available on the TICA website slpoer: the eo said 25 dollars renews but hte paper application said we had to pay up the arrears up to $75.00 cattrekker: oh, yeah....there is that....forgot about that.... cattrekker: check with the EO and how far in arrears we are.... slpoer: Since 06 s_cases: For opend a new club you only need to pay $25 but after May 1 you will need to renewal cattrekker: expired May 1 of 06? slpoer: it was chartered in 04, paid in o5 and lapsed in 06 ffmycat: question: can't we do a new club? cattrekker: that's a good point..... crsphynx@att.net: is the club fee seperate from TICA membership fee cattrekker: we could do a new club and it will only cost $25.00 cattrekker: plus there is an advantage you get for your first show if you have it within one year of your charter date.... slpoer: Yes, do you want a new club with a new name? ffmycat: filing fees with the state? cattrekker: can't remember exactly what it is.... cattrekker: Wichita Cats is a CFA club, right?? mystymaine: KansasCats is Inc isn't it slpoer: Wichita Cat Fancy cattrekker: ok..... s_cases: Also the new club have some discount for the first show slpoer: yes it is inc cattrekker: so we need to use something different ffmycat: we need something that we can use as a brand slpoer: we would have to find out about cattrekker: does anyone know how much it costs to incorporate in KS? ffmycat: not that much cattrekker: and how much the renewal is and if you have to pay arrears? slpoer: Some of the ok members thought we were going to use WichitaKatz s_cases: I like it cattrekker: I do, too, but do we want to use that name since it's so similar to the CFA club's name?? slpoer: If I remember the incorporateion was about 100.00 annual fee is about 40 I think, I can call the state tomorrow and ask ffmycat: hmmm ffmycat: fees to KS gov, I think, are 35.00 cattrekker: Jayhawk Cat Club? cattrekker: Wildcat Cat Club? cattrekker: WildKatz? wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I like WildKatz. cattrekker: of WildCats slpoer: I like Wildkatz cattrekker: typo there.... ffmycat: KansasCats is available ffmycat: sorry, am on KS gov website cattrekker: but if we use that, we have to pay $75.00 to the EO to reactivate the charter slpoer: we already got the KansasCats,org domaine name cattrekker: there is that! cattrekker: ok....why don't we do this....check with the state of KS tomorrow and see what's up as far as using that name and how much it will cost? wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Find out which way will save the most money. cattrekker: check with the EO and find out how much the arrears are to pick up the Kansas Cats charter... cattrekker: also find out if we will get the new club advantage if we pick up the old charter? slpoer: he Kansas Cats Inc name renewal? cattrekker: exactly......do a cost comparison.... ffmycat: or if we can use a symbol with the Kansas Cats to have a new name cattrekker: I'm going to TICA website and see what the advantage is to chartering a new club.... s_cases: If you want a domaine here is free s_cases: must to be .com.ar slpoer: Richard suggested Kansas Katz ffmycat: KansasKats is available ffmycat: KansasKatz is available wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Is Pat Harbert still on the phone? ffmycat: and Kansas Katz is available wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Does she have any suggestions? slpoer: Only cost 8 dollar yearly here. wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: yes, domains are not that expensive. ffmycat: Filing fee with the state of Kansas is 84 if we do it online slpoer: Richard will check on domain availability, Kats or Katz slpoer: I think that is the was to go, we won't have any money until we pay dues. We can't set up bank account until we have letter of incorporation and tax id. slpoer: Richard and I both have a paypal id, we could collect to pay the fees. ffmycat: dues are 25 for voting, correct? cattrekker: ok....just talked to our wonderful RD.... slpoer: Old club was, thunderkatz is only 15 cattrekker: if we charter a new club we are exempt from paying show fees if we hold a show within one year.... cattrekker: that is a savings of $420 for a 12 ring show! s_cases: yes itīs a good option slpoer: okay, can we do that? Good savings cattrekker: and it's only $25 for club charter.... cattrekker: all we would have to pay is $200 for insurance for the show..... ffmycat: don't see why not, just need to get organized :) slpoer: have a money making deal cooked up with Barbara Midura with 'Something Unique" to make our shirts, slpoer: as a fund raiser s_cases: People Iīm the web-master of ticasa (web site of SA Region) and I can work in a web-site if you want slpoer: Maybe we could also make up something regional so other clubs would purchase them wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: A website would be great, I think. ffmycat: that would be good s_cases: www.ticasa.com.ar slpoer: We have a web site, just need to make a few adjustments cattrekker: Pat moves we charter a new club s_cases: I made free for our Region two years ago and I up load the news now slpoer: i second slpoer: It has been moved and second that se charter a new club slpoer: all in favor wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: aye cattrekker: sharon, dear, you can't second....your'e the Prez ffmycat: aye s_cases: yes cattrekker: I second cattrekker: aye crsphynx@att.net: yes cattrekker: Pat aye slpoer: remember I represent Richard here too cattrekker: ok cattrekker: that'll work cattrekker: just trying to keep us legal ffmycat: name? slpoer: Right cattrekker: Kansas Kats slpoer: Do you want KansasKatz cattrekker: or Wild Cats ffmycat: we need something generic so that we can pull in all slpoer: everyone put in their choice, we'll count them up cattrekker: I like KansasKatz s_cases: I like more KansasKatz wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Wild Katz would cover everybody. cattrekker: true slpoer: ok it has been suggested for KansasKatz do I have a motion cattrekker: I move we name the club KansasKatz ffmycat: 2nd slpoer: all in favor wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: aye cattrekker: aye s_cases: yes cattrekker: Pat Harbert aye crsphynx@att.net: yes ffmycat: aye slpoer: richard aye slpoer: the motion carries cattrekker: WooHoo! cattrekker: we're now official! wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: KansasKatz!:x ffmycat: :D slpoer: So Jon could you take care of the filing with the state ffmycat: do we want the exact same as what we had before, but with the name change? ffmycat: and officers s_cases: Congratulations to all! slpoer: no we want to file as a 501(c) non profit ffmycat: k cattrekker: ok...we all need to e-mail Sharon with our names, addresses, TICA membership numbers and expiration so she can file the club charter with the EO cattrekker: the application for the club charter is here - http://ticaeo.com/Content/Forms/Forms/Club_Charter_Application.pdf ffmycat: Kansas not for profit is showing up as only 20.00 s_cases: only fill one slpoer: The RD said in regional meeting Sun that in order for us to vote we need to renew our TICA dues by March 30 s_cases: and also you can add anothers member cattrekker: that's to vote in elections this fall..... cattrekker: and that's for new members.... cattrekker: if you are renewing you can wait until closer to deadline... cattrekker: you have to be an active member of TICA for 6 months before being allowed to vote in TICA elections slpoer: okay so we just have to file for not for profit? cattrekker: so if you haven't joined TICA you need to do it now cattrekker: it's cheaper.... s_cases: Itīs right for Regional votes and TICA votes cattrekker: we can convert to 501(c)3 later if we want ffmycat: will call S of State tomorrow on this cattrekker: when we have more money slpoer: And where do we apply for tax id number? mystymaine: So the club is going in another direction??? ffmycat: if we can get it done, all at once, for a small amount of money, should be able ffmycat: a corporation will need an ein number mystymaine: yes it will slpoer: where do we apply for that ffmycat: this is accounting stuff -- the purpose of the club is staying the same ffmycat: irs.gov mystymaine: OK ffmycat: sorry, been doing taxes last 3 weeks cattrekker: just doing a new charter because of cost slpoer: after we get the articles of incorporation ffmycat: k, so, to review: incorporate as 501(c)3 as a domestic corporation slpoer: is that when we apply fo ein number ffmycat: submit ein request ffmycat: submit TICA request ffmycat: start bank ffmycat: account slpoer: yes cattrekker: did we decide on how much dues will be? ffmycat: not yet ffmycat: new club slpoer: Richard will open bank account as soon as he gets letters of incorporation and ein number as requested by the bank ffmycat: k ffmycat: I can probably front the money to incorporate ffmycat: ein request is free --- lol mystymaine: Hey one good thing cattrekker: something FREE from the government? cattrekker: amazing ffmycat: the TICA request will need to be done by someone with adobe writer -- and they get you at the back end slpoer: how about $20.00 per member, $25.oo for family? cattrekker: the charter request?? ffmycat: we have to file statements slpoer: I will get charter request done cattrekker: cool ffmycat: great s_cases: wow! ffmycat: question: on membership: voting vs non-voting slpoer: I suggest we set the dues cattrekker: ThunderKatz doesn't have a nonvoting membership.... ffmycat: affiliated do not vote, correct ffmycat: ? cattrekker: you're either a member or you're not.... cattrekker: easier bookkeeping and record keeping ffmycat: I move that member dues are 20 year, slpoer: spouces and children are considered affiliates in family membership plan wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: The suggested dues sounded fine to me. s_cases: here the clubs works as some issues the members vote and others not mystymaine: sound fine to me ffmycat: I figure if you want to vote you pay full price slpoer: ok that's good cattrekker: and $25 for a family membership which entitles you to voted for spouses and children over 18 s_cases: Yes...the important issues only vote the commission slpoer: sounds okay wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: dumb question: What kinds of things are voted on? mystymaine: Officers ffmycat: dues cattrekker: and spending money.... slpoer: children over 18 pay full membership don't they ffmycat: committees cattrekker: and what judges to have cattrekker: stuff like that.... wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: ok, thanks. slpoer: i know what judge not to have mystymaine: :D cattrekker: oh, yeah?? ffmycat: play nice! cattrekker: meow slpoer: yeh like a allbreed short hair final mystymaine: I do all the time slpoer: what ffmycat: so, do we have a 2nd for ffmycat: 20 for individual mystymaine: 2nd ffmycat: 25 for family with one vote cattrekker: no cattrekker: 25 for family with 2 votes ffmycat: k -- slpoer: adults only, children over 18 has to pay own membership ffmycat: accept amendment cattrekker: exactly s_cases: I agree ffmycat: aye cattrekker: aye wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: aye cattrekker: Pat Harbert aye slpoer: motion passed cattrekker: WooHoo! slpoer: do we pick a show date to set our goals for? slpoer: cfa always show in feb cattrekker: I suggest we hold off on that....let me talk with Cheryl Hogan...see what's available.... slpoer: we need to have a fall show cattrekker: there are a lot of shows in the fall.... cattrekker: especially this fall..... ffmycat: and think about where slpoer: I talked to cheryl yesterday, she suggested sept, if we can get judges wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Do we have to do this within a 6 month time frame? cattrekker: no 12 months wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Great, Sept. would be good. slpoer: when is the springfield show? s_cases: Remeber that the Annual is at the end of August and September the first weekend any show because is so close to Annual s_cases: I remember that itīs a complicated month wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: November? ffmycat: who do you want to be the registered agent for the corporation? I'm working on this as we type ffmycat: October? ffmycat: weather is better cattrekker: ok....here's what's on the calendar cattrekker: 9/13-14 Springfield MO cattrekker: 9/20 Beaumont, TX slpoer: I will be agent as Pres cattrekker: 10/3-5 On Safari in Marshall TX cattrekker: 10/11-12 Tulsa ffmycat: k full name please slpoer: Sharon L Poer cattrekker: 10/18-19 South Bend IN cattrekker: Nov 1-2 St. Francis WI cattrekker: Nov 8-9 Meridian, MS slpoer: 1916 Country Walk Lane Mulvane, KS 67110 cattrekker: Nov 15-16 Turkish Van Cat Club, Dallas their first show cattrekker: Dec 5-7 Tucson cattrekker: Dec 13-14 Corpus Christi, TX slpoer: oorah slpoer: I liked that show last year cattrekker: There's nothing on the calendar in January for the region or anywhere close slpoer: Feb is Wichita CFA show, too much conflict? cattrekker: I think January would be good, IF the weather cooperates..... s_cases: free it September 27-28 or October 25 -26 slpoer: Are you going to compete with CFA show cattrekker: but most people from the south of Texas will not come because it's too far..... slpoer: hey, they promised me they would cattrekker: I said most...... cattrekker: some will..... cattrekker: they sure complain about how far OKC is.... cattrekker: LOL slpoer: How about Oct 25-26 ffmycat: anyone have CFA's calendar? cattrekker: On Safari is Oct 3-5 and Tulsa is the 11-12 wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Weather definitely could be an issue in January. slpoer: yes cattrekker: that's 3 shows in a month in SC cattrekker: that'll hurt us cattrekker: and Dallas is Nov 15-16 cattrekker: the only show in Feb is Waco slpoer: I'm goinf to 3 shows this month mystymaine: http://www.cfagulfshore.org/showsched.php cattrekker: most folks can't go to that many shows in a month s_cases: Itīs not easy to find a good date for a show wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Is Summertime too soon? cattrekker: actually May would be a good month..... mystymaine: you want to work around CFA's shows? cattrekker: but it's the beginning of the show season cattrekker: ok...I know the OKC CFA show is always Thanksgiving weekend cattrekker: and the Tulsa CFA show is in March.....the weekend closest to St. Pat's day usually cattrekker: in fact it's this weekend.... mystymaine: my clubs show is in Wichita Falls, Tx July 19-20, 2008 thats in Texas s_cases: And August itīs so soon? slpoer: how much money do we need to put on a show ffmycat: ok -- how long to put together a show -- 6 months absolute minimum?? s_cases: 08/30 & 31? cattrekker: you run into conflict with the regional on August 16-17 in Austin mystymaine: If things run smoothly that should be plenty time cattrekker: and August 30-31 is the TICA Annual in Arlington s_cases: Yes sorry wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: WOW! wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Lots of shows! s_cases: for that reason is more easy to find a good date for 2009 cattrekker: let me talk it over with the RD and see what's available..... slpoer: how much does it cost? cattrekker: and put out some feelers cattrekker: up front money, you will need deposit for show hall..... cattrekker: usually at least $500 slpoer: are you going to be the show manager cattrekker: if you want me to, I would be honored slpoer: okay i vote yes mystymaine: Feb 2-3 is Wichita Cat Fancy in Wichita, Kansas cattrekker: I'll need lots of help, but I don't that's going to be a problem with this bunch! wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Where do we hold shows here? slpoer: Richard makes motion that Marty is KansasKatz show manager cattrekker: you need at least 20,000 square feet wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: 2nd ffmycat: and an airport slpoer: We can check on Cotillion s_cases: for how many entries? cattrekker: true, but you have that ffmycat: with hotel that has food cattrekker: or restaurants within walking distance for judges cattrekker: TICA rules wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: hotels that allow animals. ffmycat: I need the director's name and address s_cases: for how many entries we need at least 20,000 square feet? cattrekker: LaQuinta, Best Western, Motel 6 mystymaine: well sometimes there are restaurants close to Hotels, you need to contact Hotels (Pet Friendly) slpoer: Laquinta on west side mystymaine: Do you have a La Quinta they accept Pets and most do now cattrekker: you can negotiate with them for room rate if you can guarantee them a certain number of rooms slpoer: yes cattrekker: usually 50 mystymaine: Our Club uses the La Quinya cattrekker: and considering at least 10 of those will be judges..... slpoer: oe 12 cattrekker: so does ThunderKatz mystymaine: Quinta here and there are restaurants nearby, walking distance cattrekker: some judges room together.... mystymaine: we have a convention center here is there one there cattrekker: we have to pay for judges hotel for night before and night after judging.... mystymaine: or fairgrounds with indoor facilities ffmycat: Sharon or Richard -- I need the list of the board of directors for filing mystymaine: well have to go..need to tend to the cats.... ffmycat: do we have Sara Paul's address? cattrekker: ok....Marty Young, 618 S. Williams, El Reno, OK 73036, TICA #879-SC, expires 5/1/08 will renew this month so you can put 5/1/09 slpoer: no convention center Cindy what;s the name of the thing up north where the thunder plays cattrekker: oops....2879-SC cattrekker: when they had the last Great Plains regional it was at the Civic Center, I think.... cattrekker: but I think it was kinda expensive slpoer: Richard will have list for ypu Jon on website tonight slpoer: Centuray 2 cattrekker: that's it! ffmycat: k, about 1/2 done with incorporation papers slpoer: expensive cattrekker: nice place, plenty of room.... cattrekker: but pricey cattrekker: do you have a fairgrounds?? slpoer: no fairgrounds cattrekker: ok.... slpoer: We will sout out some locstions and get back with prices cattrekker: you'll have to do some asking around cattrekker: good idea... cattrekker: ok....since I've been appointed show manager, I'll get with Cheryl on dates and get some input others .... cattrekker: from others.... slpoer: judges? wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Do we have a due date for our dues? cattrekker: ASAP? cattrekker: annually on Jan 1st? wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: By Paypal? What address? s_cases: Iīm clerk and master clerk license and I was working also twice as entry clerk for a club in Spain slpoer: yes dues asap, do you want us to use paypal slpoer@hotmail.com wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Great. wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: Paypal would work out great for me. ffmycat: works for me s_cases: If you need someone for work as entry clerk or clerk/master clerk can count with me wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: This is my first year as a TICA member. Can we renew online? wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: and pay? slpoer: Richard will post this on website also s_cases: I know also to do the catalog and judge books slpoer: yes renew on line to Tica pay by pay pal accounting@ticaeo,com wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: thank you. slpoer: Are you planning to come to the show Silvana s_cases: why not? My sponsor for Judging Porgram lives near and this year I need to go to some show for have my 25 show s_cases: for apply to Judging Program in 2009 ffmycat: Sharon: Jon & Mike Cruver -- paid s_cases: I donīt have paypal for pay s_cases: the dues of the club ffmycat: hmmm -- can you sign up for an account? ffmycat: it is free s_cases: but here is not works ffmycat: ah slpoer: send to Richard a check? 1630 S Elizabeth Wichita ks 67213 slpoer: or money order s_cases: sorry....but I can send by Wester Union or later for a friend s_cases: I can send c check slpoer: Richard last name is Hummel s_cases: Someone can give me his mail slpoer: just did above s_cases: e-mail :) slpoer: richard@dragonlord.net s_cases: thanks! slpoer: Marty still here cattrekker: yes....hang on.... cattrekker: was talking to Pat, sorry..... slpoer: do you have any idea about judges to ask for cattrekker: D'Ann Kovic if we can get her...she always donates part of her judging fee back to the club....since it's a first time show, she might donate if all back.... cattrekker: it cattrekker: and she would probably drive.... cattrekker: there are a ton of judges in TX..... cattrekker: Fate Mays cattrekker: let me work up a list and I'll put it on the group slpoer: No to Nancy Nolen s_cases: I knew some judges also that I can suggest cattrekker: absolutely! She eats clerks for lunch slpoer: Rob Seliskar loves cats and is good cattrekker: I LOVE Rob cattrekker: but he's specialty only.... slpoer: i like the Roberts cattrekker: so do I..... cattrekker: suggest away slpoer: so lets look at this cattrekker: 12 rings cattrekker: we can use a coupld of judges both days to save money on flights and hotel slpoer: 2 roberts, 1 seliskar specialty ring cattrekker: we need to work up a list with 15-16 judges to start with.... slpoer: d'ann kovic cattrekker: let's throw it out on the list so everyone can put their 2 cents in..... slpoer: joe edwards rather than Fate Mays slpoer: al walburn cattrekker: Joe especially if we have him do the cage service....again saves money since you have to pay his hotel if he does the cage service wyattandcindy@sbcglobal.net: I am going to have to go, is there anything else that you need from me? s_cases: itīs good idea about Joe slpoer: does he have his own cages ffmycat: who is posting the notes from tonight? cattrekker: Joe does the cages for all the SC shows..... cattrekker: he has a cage service slpoer: Richard will he has been taking he notes cattrekker: provides all the exhibitor cages, judging cages, judging platforms, disinfectant s_cases: Thanks Richard! slpoer: okay that would be one judge with clerk and cages cattrekker: lattice to hang rosettes on.... ffmycat: I'll leave this up, but I will have to leave as well, 5 am come pretty quick. Richard if you can send me the list of the directors, w/ addresses, should have us filed by Thursday at latest. cattrekker: rosettes will be our biggest expense... cattrekker: I think we need to use the plaque system.... cattrekker: that way we will only have to order 200 rosettes max..... cattrekker: does anyone have a heat laminator?? ffmycat: what size? s_cases: I need to go now but I will waiting the notes cattrekker: large anough to do a regular sheet of paper?? s_cases: Bye people! cattrekker: bye! ffmycat: I'll check - cattrekker: nice meeting you ffmycat: bye slpoer: good night jon s_cases: I enjoy a lot meet all of you! ffmycat: :) cattrekker: I have the template to do the plaques.... slpoer: good night silv cattrekker: it's very easy cattrekker: you use card stock slpoer: okay cattrekker: and then you heat laminate the whole sheet and cut them out.... cattrekker: then you put sticky stuff on the back of each one.... slpoer: so isn't there some one in the region that makes rosettes cattrekker: nope..... cattrekker: I would suggest Centaur......I know them and they will probably not charge us a deposit if I do the ordering since I've ordered from the for the Tulsa club slpoer: I thought i saw that on the list cattrekker: they're in Washington state....actually in Canada, but they have an office in WA state cattrekker: and ship from within the US so not customs to deal with cattrekker: I think 200 rosettes for Tulsa show cost us around $400 slpoer: how much would they cost us? one color or multiple colors cattrekker: two colors..... cattrekker: we can go with one color, but I don't think it saves you any money.... cattrekker: what are KS colors?? cattrekker: I know one is purple and white cattrekker: KS universities.... cattrekker: Tulsa used orange and black... slpoer: blublue and rede and yellow state color cattrekker: red and blue would be nice cattrekker: or we could use yellow for sunflowers.... slpoer: Wichita stae is black and yellow slpoer: ku is blue and red slpoer: ksu is purple and white cattrekker: KSU is purple and white, right? slpoer: yes cattrekker: OR we could do a different color for each ring....as long as it's only two colors on the rosette it doesn't cost more.... slpoer: Our web site is purple and white cattrekker: like red and white, blue and white, purple and white, yellow and white, green and white, orange and white... slpoer: but how do you do that with the plaque system ithought they got a rossete when they came in cattrekker: oops..... cattrekker: cattrekker: ok.... cattrekker: we could just pick one color then.... cattrekker: purple and white .....maybe? cattrekker: of course I'd pick red and white since I'm a diehard Sooner.....heehee slpoer: works for me ..the wildcat fun cattrekker: and Pat Harbert would pick orange and black for OSU cattrekker: we can decide all this later.... slpoer: okay get us a show date cattrekker: I have to go feed critters..... cattrekker: will do.... cattrekker: I'll come up with several and give the pros and cons and see what everyone things cattrekker: thinks slpoer: meeting adjourned \ slpoer: good night